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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:12 am    Post subject: Act IV Chapter 12 Reply with quote

Another exelent chapter.
lol mr reporer is showing his dark side now
and zig is pissed
and the babies are cute... just had to throw that one in

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Zig doesn't trust Anotol. She didn't trust Arden much either as I recal.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actualy we can pass that assumption off on Zig don't trust many furs in the long run...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Niiice. Evern worked in a ref. to "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"!

I'm more and more convinced that Anatol isn't Arden. Quite simply, we know Arden literally moved Heaven, Hell, and multiple Earths to ensure he could return to Sheila. No way he'd ever let himself be locked into Catholic vows that would force him to keep separated from her in any way.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True the vows would get in the way. But Anotol did say he'd throw all that out the window and be with Sheila but only if she accepted the kits as her own. That is sounding alot like something Arden would do. Either do this or you don't get what you want.

And yes I agree that Zig doesn't trust anyone except for a few furs.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A few moments later, a tall orangutan wearing a smart looking, three-piece suit entered the room. “Good afternoon. I’m doctor Spivey.” He looked at Sheila and nodded. “You must be Miss Vixen,” he declared, holding out his hand.



the "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest" shows up again. Very Happy

Mark Spivey AKA Lone Wolf Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was ok...

nothing groundbreaking, although Anatol's "You dont know anything about me" did catch my attention.

I think that he'll either have to be killed off or made bigger (plotwise) when the story moves along...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*in a very bad Sigmund Freuid(sp?) accent*
Very intersting..... Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Z_Marzixian:

I'm sure you meant to quote Arte Johnson from the old [url=http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/TV/Misc/Rowan_and_Martin's_Laugh-In.asp]Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In.[/url]


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Can anyone (preferably OBA Hikaru) explain to me what Sheila's problems with her kits is?

Granted: she was much much much less than enthused about lugging her pregnant body through a pseduo D & D universe...

Granted: she was pissed about the way Arden let it drop that he knew she was expecting twins all along, but didn't say anything...

Granted: she became sterile because of the rough delivery.

But is there something more going on here? Could she be buying into her false memory, and thinking that the kits were sired by one of her rapists? That could definitely account for some of her behavior....

Then there's the thing with the eyes...but she could have been hallucinating or just confused. Would that have been enough for her to reject the kits?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the implication was that with the seeing thier eyes scene, that she is trying to forget the story we have been told so far, and believe her other memories, and the kits are a reminder of that. She is trying to cut her ties to that set of memories. Which should prove interesting for plot twists.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting.... very, very interesting, but STUPID!


Hortmage wrote:
Can anyone (preferably OBA Hikaru) explain to me what Sheila's problems with her kits is?

I thought it would be blatantly apparent by now, but guess not.

Facts:
1) Sheila believes that the implanted memories are true.
2) Sheila blames the kits for her histerectomy.
3) She thiks the kits are the product of rape and not Arden's.

That's essentially it. She's denying the kits because they represent everything bad that's happened over the last year.

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Granted: she was much much much less than enthused about lugging her pregnant body through a pseduo D & D universe...

Yes, but she believes those memories are part of a schizophrennic delusion thanks to Zig Zag saying that she an Arden just walked out of the studio that fatefull eve.

Hortmage wrote:
Granted: she was pissed about the way Arden let it drop that he knew she was expecting twins all along, but didn't say anything...

Again, she thinks that's just a fantasy. It's not real to her.

Hortmage wrote:
Granted: she became sterile because of the rough delivery.

It's part of the placental abruption (placenta tearing away from the uterus wall). Yes, she blames the kits for it even though they're not at fault.

[quote="Hortmage"]But is there something more going on here? Could she be buying into her false memory, and thinking that the kits were sired by one of her rapists? That could definitely account for some of her behavior....[/quit]
Yep. Remember in the hospital after she saw the kit's eyes change. She kept telling herslef that if it can't be true, it mustn't be true. She's reinforcing the falce memories..

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Then there's the thing with the eyes...but she could have been hallucinating or just confused. Would that have been enough for her to reject the kits?

She was ready to reject them before the eyes, but then Anatol surprised her with them. First thing she see's is that they resemble Arden and she thinks "Arden's kits... they look like Arden." Then the impossible happens: The kits eyes change. She realizes that can't happen, her reality shatters and she blames the kits for it.

That answer your questions?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That brings up a question from me.
Is Sheila going to be told the truth anytime soon or at all?
Just curious cause I bet she is going to go into meltdown when/if she is.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry_Hound wrote:
That brings up a question from me.
Is Sheila going to be told the truth anytime soon or at all?
Just curious cause I bet she is going to go into meltdown when/if she is.


That would be telling.......


.... and in more ways than one. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have expected that response. Oh well.

I say it's time for some more speculation.
And heres the subject of the speculation.
Asuming that Sheila is told the truth about what happened to her what will her reaction be and what will it do to her mental health?

Let the speculation begin. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is when is Zig gonna fess up to Sheila...
I can see good reasons to do it in the halfway house shes in
but then agine there are BAD reasons
same with when she gets out to tell her.

I can see the fight when that happens eather way.
I can see Sheila will blameing this on Arden (in what ever form he may be in) and Lucy big time too

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