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kcmack · Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject:

I think in cases where there is ample evidence the death penalty should be there. After reading a bit more on this case I think it was met:

http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/jones682.htm

It sounds like they had both witnesses that could place him at the crime and also testimony from people who heard him talk about the killing.

Aslaug · Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:46 am Post subject:

But the fact remains that there was no physical evidence. Two witnesses, who might have mistaken him for someone else should not be enough to kill him.

Sigurd Volsung · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:27 am Post subject:

Okay I should start by saying while I have several big problems with the death penalty as it is, there are times I would love to see it used. And here's why.

About a week and a half ago two convenience store were robbed about an hour drive away from each other in Iowa. Both robberies were committed by the same 17 year old. Micheal Swanson, who is being tried as an adult, though why he is being tried makes no sense as he has plead guilty. In both robberies he demanded cash and cigarettes which the cashiers quickly handed over without any hesitation, and in both cases he shot and killed the cashiers. He apparently didn't want them to be able to spot him in a line up not even thinking about the cameras.

When he was caught a few hours later returning to his home in Minnesota he seemed to find it funny. When he was booked and led to prison a reporter asked "What's so funny, you're smiling?" Micheal Swanson replied, and I quote "Y'all are funny." with a laugh.

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=882797

As I said there are times when I'd love to see the death penalty used and personally I'd love to see this waste of flesh dance a jig at the end of a short rope.

Aslaug · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:59 am Post subject:

You're entitled to that opinion. Personally, I'd love to see that waste of flesh spend the rest of his hopefully extremely long life in a 9 foot by 6 foot room with no privacy due to a door made from bars, twenty minutes of fresh air every day walking in a circle with his head bowed in a fully enclosed yard, no access to cigarettes, TV or movies, and a basic diet fulfilling his physical needs.

I'd love to see him when he's 80 years old, to see if he's still grinning or if he, in my opinion far more likely, is crumbling and begging to be let out to die in freedom.

And, to quote the Watchmen-character Rorschach, with whom I otherwise agree on very, very few things, I would look down on him and say: "No."

Then once his sorry remains had passed this mortal coil, his corpse would be sent to the prison incinerator, where it would serve his only useful purpose by supplying the other inmates with roughly ninety seconds of heat as it fueled the fires.

THAT is a punishment. Killing him isn't.

anthony · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:48 am Post subject:

Frazikar · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:40 am Post subject:

Aslaug · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:25 pm Post subject:

I don't care about the costs for guards, food and clothing. Guards, food and clothing requires people to be employed. Meaning less unemployment. And in any case, I am happy to pay my taxes.

anthony · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject:

Never said that the work they'd be able to do would rduce the cost to the society. Just make them FEEL what a burden they are.

Besides, a lot of criminals never did a day of honest hard work in their life.

Come to think of it, a lot of younger offenders could use hard labour even on shorter terms. Might get them to wise up a bit.

'Community service'?
That system is so abused that no one takes it seriously anymore.

Frazikar · Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:01 am Post subject:

[(Daffy standing, beak open, arm extended with finger pointing, saying nothing)]

And that was just after the Republicans got into office...

Sigurd Volsung · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject:

*Puts his face in his palms and simply weeps*

If I wasn't so attached to my home I'd simply move to somewhere sane, I hear Denmark is a beautiful place to live. Or if Aslaug gets the job she wants in Dublin I'd move to Ireland, so that I'd have at least one good friend in Europe. But I love the Twin Cities and I won't leave until I'm a corpse even if that means having to start shooting Republicans for being Alpha Sierra Sierra . Hotel Oscar Lima Echo Sierra. If you didn't under stand that look up NATO Phonetics on wikipedia.

What is a Socialist to do, and yes like Aslaug I'm a dyed in the wool Socialist, if I leave that will mean that there will br one less furson to fight the good fight.

Benleopard · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:11 pm Post subject:

Im there with you Sigurd... But I think i'm more of a socialist confederate. Razz

But I am more incline to go to either France, near the Dutchland boarder or Switzerland near either France or Dutchland. Razz

Kaeto · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject:

Actually Milady it's the attitude he displayed when he was arrested that he felt that he had not done anything wrong in his treatment of those dogs. I feel that he should spend the rest of his life working in a low wage job instead of making millions a year chasing an inflated pig's bladder.

Frazikar · Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:33 am Post subject:

Spin doctors will always try and get their side into print (and unfortunately, most of their readers won't look it up to see how they spun it)...

tobi3B · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:00 am Post subject:

Well Aslaug I don´t think you are wrong
I´ve seen it many times and heard it too often
No I don´t have anything against Gays (as long as I don´t see them)
*shakes his head*

Kaeto · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject:

Milady: This is one point that you and I are completely in agreement on.