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Vallus Registered User
Joined: 20 Nov 2000 Posts: 397 Location: Oologah, OK
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: Smash and Grab |
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http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=12219699
... or not. Way to be subtle guys, maybe you could use a bulldozer next time. At least the cops nabbed them quick this time and I hope as part of their punishment they are made to help pay for the costs to repair the shop owners store front. |
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anthony Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1304 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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These kinds of robberies are getting more and more common.
It won't be long before some of the more exposed shop owners starts 'arming' their stores with hidden I-beams and similar in the hope of taking out the driver of the truck used to ram the stores.
(The truck is usually destroyed anyway. Most such criminals have two cars, one to ram with and one to escape in)
I also expect fewer and fewer 'full height' windows in stores. _________________ "My name's Lion, Anthony Lion"
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Teric Registered User
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 2566 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Haha!
*shake head ruefully*
That reminds me of that story of the guy who tried to mug a former championship boxer. Idiots. _________________ Styx: "Oh sure like flaming a dragon going to do massive damage, brave challenge there Teric." |
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Vallus Registered User
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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anthony wrote: | I also expect fewer and fewer 'full height' windows in stores. |
That and a good set of bars on the windows would probably be the best thing to do. The hidden I-beam likely wouldn't be a good idea as there are laws against booby trapping ones property here in the states. |
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anthony Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1304 Location: Norway
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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The problem with bars is that they need to be ridiculosly thick to stop someone driving a Ford F-series or similar deathtrap...
And if you're thinking of latticework or similar used when closing down the shop for the night...
There has been a few 'shock and awe' type robberies where they hit stores with a truck during opening hours.
(Possibly in the hope of avoiding lattices, goods lockd down in safes and all that)
So, yes, criminals are willing to ram a store full of customers, if they think tat they can get away with it.
And the laws against boobytraps only applies if they're intentional.
"No officer, I had no idea that those I-beams used to support the exhibit wasn't properly fastened."
Cynical?
Yeah...
I also know that some store owners will 'take matters into their own hands' after the first few times it happens. _________________ "My name's Lion, Anthony Lion"
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tobi3B Registered User
Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Germany Siegen
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Ohh man Idiots.
Like this two guy who wanted to rob a Gunshow some years ago _________________ Whether a black cat brings misfortune or not, depends on whether one is a fur or a mouse.
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South_Munjoy Registered User
Joined: 22 Nov 2005 Posts: 170 Location: The Land Of 10,000 Ole & Lefse Jokes
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Vallus wrote: | anthony wrote: | I also expect fewer and fewer 'full height' windows in stores. |
That and a good set of bars on the windows would probably be the best thing to do. The hidden I-beam likely wouldn't be a good idea as there are laws against booby trapping ones property here in the states. |
At the same time though, It could be probably be successfully argued that the 'booby trap' is in fact a 'structural support'. |
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Katra Registered User
Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 6188 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Two words. Bumper posts.
Designed to keep vehicles from driving through/over things accidentally; but properly placed they should stop the smash and grab crooks. (In fact the sight of heavy duty steel posts should make the dumbest crook think twice.) _________________ Richard Reid
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anthony Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1304 Location: Norway
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Only if they're properly placed.
That means getting permits, digging up the sidewalk, pouring tons of concrete and so on.
It's expensive to do it right.
And even then, some moron is just going to nick a farm tractor, big front-loader or something.
(I wouldn't think twice about tearing through the posts in the picture with my father's Belarus 420 4WD tractor. And a modern, BIG one... )
Also, posts like that are UGLY, and that's nothing anyone want associated with their shop.
And in areas where you get snow in the winter, they're kind of a pain in the rear... _________________ "My name's Lion, Anthony Lion"
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Alexi Registered User
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 426 Location: Virginia Beach
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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I beams?
feh.
Use scrap railroad track.
If the cops ask, you can say that you were reinforcing the walls with what you could find or say that it was reinforcement for strong winds. _________________ "Liven a dream, Oh you're on top. My mind is aching, oh it won't stop. That's how it happens, living life by the drop."- Life by the drop. Stevie ray Vaughan. |
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Hawke Registered User
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 175 Location: Hickory Hills, IL (Near Chicago)
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:55 am Post subject: |
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You could always do what they have at almost evey national monument to prevent terrorist attacks in vehicles... Large Concrete flower pots. Can't drive much through those things....Decorative too
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anthony Site Owner
Joined: 12 Nov 2001 Posts: 1304 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Yes, flowerpots works better than the steel posts.
And if need be, you can use them to hide a more solid pillar inside. _________________ "My name's Lion, Anthony Lion"
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