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2012, the year the internet ends. (Somehow i doubt it.)

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: 2012, the year the internet ends. (Somehow i doubt it.) Reply with quote

Get a load of this. I ran across this while randomly surfing.

http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahhh i laughed at this when i first ran across it via youtube, and i'm still laughing at it here on pf...


Mind you I never put anything instantly out and away but regardless, the idea that they would all agree for this is pure stupidity, ignoring... if i remember correctly, there is some legal problems with getting multiple different companies i can't really remember too well x.x

but bleh the internet is the government's anyways it's not in the possession of an one set person so to get this to actually work is near impossible anyways bleh

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As teric explained to me online there'd be no way to force everyone to do this. in the end other providers would speak up and say things like I can get you online cheaper than those other guys, eventually winding up with other still saying I can get you on the internet for absolutely free. Then we'd be right back where we started and with complete net neutrality again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were also supposed to start taxing e-mail use by early 2000, and it hasn't happened. I expect the exact same for this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear they're still try to do that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you're trying to get several big huge ISP companies to agree on something? Not bloody likely, not when the conmsumer will throw a hissy fit.

If anything ACTA is more likely to pass since it is being discussed by G8 nations, OUTSIDE of WTO influence, outside of WIPO, outside of the normal traffic flow where trade agreements are normally drafted.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will go about as well as DRM did.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will say that Bell Canada up here in Canuckistan is throttling certain Internet traffic (mostly torrents) and that is causing some controversy.

TELUS however, does not offer residential Internet service in all of Canada though, so I don't know how much sway they have to change things.

I don't see other business tolerating this - One of the great things about the Internet is the access it gives to entrepreneurs, and entrepreneurial spirit is one of the great advantages of free-market capitalism.

I don't see any government outside those nations that already control the Internet (like Saudi Arabia, Cuba, etc) wanting to turn back the ability of innovators and entrepreneurs to make money and spread ideas.

I will say this group is smart putting the pic of the chick with the low-cut top as their opening shot - they understand marketing, apparently Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The internet will die when Al Gore dies. Remember, he gave it to us, and he can take it away.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I laugh so much at this.. Like are these guys for real?

I highly doubt something like this would ever take place.. packageing websites?

but.. When ever I do hear about stupid stuff like this I still do wonder the what ifs.. For I own my own website and I do say the internet is for the media, small business. anc comunication.. In america wouldn't that go against several laws for infingement of rights? but I could see each other country suffering..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more worried about Net metering
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reading this, I have a mental image of some geeks sitting around a table going "screw flying cars, lets get rid of the internet." XD
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frankly....

Yes, there's a very real possibility that this happens, particularly in America.
What will then happen is that many smaller companies with a global clientele will move their servers to other parts of the world.
They will also stop using USA-based payment services(credit-card verification and such) wherever possible to avoid having to pay extra.

As for Torrents, I couldn't care less if they throttled that, as it would mean more bandwidth for legal use. (at least 99% of Torrent traffic is pirated software/music/film)

What I REALLY want to see is that the core routers on the net was programmed to block traffic from 'black holes', validation of email senders and the end of Torrents.
That would free up so much bandwidth that there would no longer be any problems...

*black holes* = Certain address ranges are officially NOT in use on the net, and traffic should therefore NOT be coming from or going to these addresses. Certain ISPs knows this and use(or let spammers use) these addresses for less than savoury purposes, knowing full well that most routers on the net doesn't have the memory to store the path to those adresses more than a few minutes at most.(Automatical deletion of evidence. Got to love that... )
I know for a fact that spammers have used the IP-range of my organisation(we have a 'B' range of 65536 addresses, of which only a handful, mostly proxies, are 'visible' on the net) when sending out their crap.
In fact, we've had to ask our ISP and their closest links to specifically exclude or add as static routes most of our range to avoid problems with external services.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it amazing how we have always pictured the future being intelligent and highly civilized with grandiose technology.

But our current cultures are evidence to the contrary.

We can't have an intelligent future with a present full of morons, and we can't have high technology with greed over-moderating what we have now.

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