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Valaina
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hooray for chapter 3! I love having Esteban's accent in there, it makes it a movie in my mind's eye, as opposed to a story, if that makes the remotest sense to anyone....

Oh, and I've never seen the evil "G" movie...nor do I intend to. Movies like that put me in mind of the "cheese" they use in certain fast food joints. You know, that unhealthy yellow stuff that looks like rubber flooring....but bears no resemblence to any milk-related product?....I'm rambling, aren't I?...

*shuts up*

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*giggles hard* Yup...that kind of cheese. Precisely that kind. I mean, the evil G-movie has some amazing costumes in it. No question there, the quality of the costume department's work is staggering. The fact that Connie Nielsen actually wears a ring that is actually DATED to the years of Marcus Aurelius in that movie is impressive...it's not a copy, it's the real thing and you don't even notice it unless you KNOW it...that's amazing. I take my hat off to that.

But the story with all it's terrible mistakes...and the fact they cast an Australian to play an Iberian (not to mention they call him a Spaniard...there was no such NAME as Spain back then)

And...and...and...the list goes on and on.

The only good thing about that flick would be the costumes and that's really not enough to save it. Far from it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That "G" movie if I'm guessing correctly was pretty good I thought strictly from a blood & guts kick a$$ action point of view, some movies are spacifically meant to watch without the use of a brain. As to AVC I'm shamed to admit I haven't read any of it... yet, right now all my time is spent reading er listening to the Wheel of Time series Great stories I'm currently on book 8 Path of Daggers, but rest assured I will read it. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read chs. 1 & 2; downloaded #3 for tomorrow's enjoyment.

GREAT job so far! Portrays the brutality, insanity and politics (there's a difference?) of the period quite well---! #Eating smiley

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I'm terrible. I've usually read the latest chapter within minutes of being told its there...I'm an addict, what can I say? But then, Milady filly's writings are deliciously moreish....(And calorie free!! Win-win situation Wheee!!)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished ch3, and I can only comment---

WOW!!! #Shocked

If not for the anthro characters (which would no doubt thoroughly confuse the mundane reader), this could stand as a NY Times best-seller "period piece". (And as a former professional book reviewer---among other things---I'm not kidding.)

This story has a realistic "bite", a gritty, historic feel that is sadly missing in much of the work that tries to tell stories of that sad era. As a reader, I keep having to figuratively smack myself upside my head to remind myself that this tale is a "story-within-a-story", a modern-times movie of a Roman-era nightmare---but done by an anthro porn studio and produced to Hollywood's high standards. Yeesh! Makes my poor gray matter cringe at the twists and turns of what I'm reading, yet I find it most SATISFYING, so incredibly rich in fine storytelling textures I'd almost forgotten existed.

I read very little commercially-published work nowadays, not from "snobbery", but from the sad lack of anything really "new" under the sun. Most modern books are simply rehashes of earlier works, often with illogical, downright GOOFY twists and turns that the authors put in them to make their works "stand out" from the morass that much of commercial publishing has become.

But THIS story is a treat for these tired old eyes, a pleasure of words and visualizations that involk beloved escapes into places and times only dreamed of (often in nightmares, too!).

I salute the author's skill in both historically accurate speculation, and in the artistry of the consummate storyteller!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I salute the author's skill in both historically accurate speculation, and in the artistry of the consummate storyteller!




Hear hear!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my goodness gracious. I just saw something bad.

Somehow, Fikrann must've gotten the files I sent her mixed up because the version of chapter 3 that she's posted holds a very SERIOUS mistake. I'm going to resend her that one and ask her to repost it along with chapter 4 today. You might want to reread the part where Claudius and Caligula are...talking, when she get's it posted.

FOR CLARIFICATION:

Claudius refers to Aggripina as his wife. This is a mistake which I caught myself and fixed. He's Aggripina's uncle, and they -were- very close, but while it is true that they eventually married they didn't do so until later on in history. I had my wires crossed because of a bad source but something didn't strike me as right so I checked up with other sources.

Blech...my mistake. I'll ask Fikrann to repost it...

Otherwise, I'm very happy about the fantastic reception that this story so far. Thank you very much everyone. I hope you'll enjoy Transitions 2 as much when it will start getting posted in a week.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only agree with James R. Lane...

The same goes for "Transitions" of course. And, I'm quite sure, will also apply to the second part.

Just as Zig's movies will never become a box-office hit, your stories will probably never get on the bestseller lists. Not because they lack quality, but because the stories aren't suitable for the mass market. Sadly, most people would much rather read another re-hash of a re-hash than something that might exercise the few remaining working brain cells in their heads...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably true, Nameless...

But that's okay. Who knows, one day I might sit down and write a rehash of a rehash to make some money, but I write -these- things because it means something to me, and because I like it. I think that's all we can really hope for.

I have been talking to Mike Regan recently, about a possible story-idea for publishing. He was quite optimistic about it, provided of course that I can write a story of good enough quality. I hope I can, needless to say. But THAT story, my friends, is a future thing.

Oh, and chapter 3 has been fixed Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapter 4 is up and ready for your reading enjoyment.

Next week sees the first installment of Transitions 2 Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to apologise for all confusion around chapter 3; I indeed confused two files and deleted corrected copy instead of the preview one.
I'd also like to apologise for the lack of glossary; I must admit that the only cause to this situation was my sheer laziness and bad case of filmosis, causing me to spent at least 16 hours a day watching crappy sci-fi series.
I promise I will put up glossary for all four chapters tomorrow.


P.S. I finally found solution to that annoying 'A' problem .. it turned out that _all_ current browsers ignore content charset specification inside XHTML file, using what www server tells them instead. Thus, correcting web server's guess about content charset made all those annoying characters vanish instantly...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good read (I had to find the file by hand, as far as I can tell, the link page is not updated. Or maybe a proxy still keeps the old file...)
I just noticed that AVC is very much paced like a movie, that is a lot of short scenes.
What I have to wonder is how many of those would have to be cut out to make this fit into what could be accommodated in the actual movie. And how many characters have to be downgraded to two-bit players who aren't much more than a body with a name.
Given how much time would have to be allocated to action scenes (of both the vertical and horizontal variety Wink ) I feel that a lot of character building scenes would have to be cut out. Zig would leave more of those (character building scenes) than any other XXX-rated movie director (and more than most Hollywood directors), but still...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be a long movie, but even then, a lot of it would be cut out. However, when they filmed 'Lord of the Rings', the first movie included 7 hours of raw footage, and even in the directors cut, it's only about half that long. So...assume it's the raw footage Razz Before edits.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aslaug wrote:
Chapter 4 is up and ready for your reading enjoyment.
Umm... where? All I see still is only up to chapter 3, even after reloading the page a couple times
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I'd also like to apologise for the lack of glossary; I must admit that the only cause to this situation was my sheer laziness and bad case of filmosis, causing me to spent at least 16 hours a day watching crappy sci-fi series.
I promise I will put up glossary for all four chapters tomorrow.
What? I do see a glossary on the site. Are you saying there's something wrong with "16 hours a day watching crappy sci-fi series"? Very Happy
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