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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Fur.. a damn pain Reply with quote


Call it pure dedication, or maybe having no respect for one's psychological
wellbeing.
It's 6 am and it feels like my brain is desperately trying to escape me.
But for now, screw that. Let's focus on the subject at hand. CG fur. So far it
cost me hours of cussing, bitching, a broken keyboard and a bruised paw..
but against all odds I friggin' did it! If I created one furred CG fur.. the rest
will be a stroll in the park. It's getting the bloody thing to work.. right. That..
and lies, hardware related crud and other crap that just aggravates me
thinking about it.

Anyhow..
Below is some eye-candy. Notice anything different?
Oh BTW.. As for the others.. the fur and hair was the hurdle, not the rigging,
not the animation but the damn fur!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmm, isn't that a great feeling, when you go insane a whole night and finally get what you want to happen happen? Perhaps it proves that insanity is the only way to really get things done, for only in a derranged state of conciousness can we truly acheive the impossible, for when reality no longer applies, we can apply our own reality upon the world.

On that note, it seems like your bending of the rules of reality payed off. Very nice.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great job Ryan. Exelent work. Looks so sot and real. *Attempts to resis't urge to pet but fails*
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

REAL CG-FUR! YES!
Is so soft and 'feel-able'.
Almost looks like you blow dry it.
Smile


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked The shirt is a different colour. Confused How COULD you?!? And the APPLE logo? What's the go with the Apple logo? Crying or Very sad













Actually, bloody awesome work. As Cirrel said, so soft and feelable. *attempts to stroke* *hits hand on screen* Mad No fair, Ryan, teasing us like that. We want The Real Thing [tm]. Very Happy
(Just kidding with the Mac thing - I know there's several furs on here who like 'em.)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stormwalker wrote:
Shocked The shirt is a different colour. Confused How COULD you?!? And the APPLE logo? What's the go with the Apple logo? Crying or Very sad













Actually, bloody awesome work. As Cirrel said, so soft and feelable. *attempts to stroke* *hits hand on screen* Mad No fair, Ryan, teasing us like that. We want The Real Thing [tm]. Very Happy
(Just kidding with the Mac thing - I know there's several furs on here who like 'em.)




Now whoa there a second boy... I'm a Mac user >=) It's not nice mocking UNIX y'know Wink There are a lot of unfriendly users out there who would do
more than drop in a friendly warning Razz They'd probably tie you up and beat the [email protected]#! out of ya, or maybe
paw yer butt over to someone llike Skunkfox... EEEP!! Perish the thought
x.x

Anyhow thanks..
and back to work.. for me that is

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PC's RULE!! all hail XP Very Happy
Looking good Ryan

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mapper wrote:
PC's RULE!! all hail XP Very Happy
Looking good Ryan




You're not too old to have your bottom smacked >=)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

only if its by a leather clad vixen Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face Paws and shakes his head. Now now be nice. The furs a really nice touch should look real good.

The reason I'm still useing windows is because I'm too old to learn anything new. If I had the time and the money I'd probally give Unix or lynix or what ever ya want to call'em a try. But I've been using Windows now ever since it came out even still have the original copy Win 3.1 and never had a major cash. *shrugges shoulders* Luck I guess.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D.F. Thompson wrote:
But I've been using Windows now ever since it came out even still have the original copy Win 3.1 and never had a major cash. *shrugges shoulders* Luck I guess.


Deffinately luck i say. Strangely PCs tend to crash if i'm near Razz. That's mainly why I switched over to Macs myself. One PowerBook G4 1.5GHz 15" model to take to class and to the university, and a PowerMac G4 733MHz model at the dorm which I heavily upgraded (1.5GB of ram, 600 GB of HD space on S-ATA through a special adapter card, and a Radeon 9800 XT card that I modded to work on this mac).

Personally, Mac OS X is easy, if not easier than windows. It runs nicely and is fast, and Tiger really is a great operating system.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:18 am    Post subject: CG Fur Reply with quote

Nice job.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Bug Jonsin and I am also an Maya
animator. I looks like you are ahead of me at the fur part. I my self have
had only two college courses on this platform, Animation 1 and 2 and I have to say you are deffinately on the fore-paw of Furry 3D.

I can understand how the macs rule in this world. In my last class, I produced a Furry Video , 4900 frames, 3 fully rigged characters. It kicked
my PCs butt so bad that I had to do nearly all the animation graphically because the characters would not move in open GL. Anyway the film is
3 minutes long and took 430hrs to make start to finish. I would love to show it off, but its so big I can't find a place to put it up on the net. I also
have no clue on compression, so if anyone has an idea on how to shrink a
950MB file down and still look good, let me know.

Congrats again on a awsome fur job and all you guys' innovations to the 3D fur world.

P.S. I tried to sell my main character on Turbo Squid. Not any takers.
For all the 3D furry artists here, I'll give her to you if you like her. I have no further use for her now or in the future. At least she makes a good textbook study guide on rigging. I'm attaching a link to her and you can read the bio.

http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/294446

Regards to all,

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


I'm flattered by the fact that you see us, me, Little Dragon, Mapper, as
source of inspiration for your work. The little work I've managed to
display here is old by my standards, plagued by critical flaws that did not
permit me to animate much of it, due to resource restrictions.
Restrictions that entail primarily hardware, and time. Time that I have
available to work on furry related art/animation. Since this is final year in
character animation, I get to choose the theme, subject, etc. So this
year, my demo will only contain what I want, and by what I have planned
it's going to be 100% furry.

Concerning your problem with the video file… Have you considered using
any compression codecs, such as mpeg, divx etc? This can easily be
done using open source software, such Virtual Dub.

I'd be happy to guide you through the process, feel free to drop me an
email at:
[email protected]

Ryan
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:03 am    Post subject: 3D furry film compression. Reply with quote

Hey thanks for the response.

Actually I have all the codecs that are out there. There is a place called
Klite.com that has them all for free if anyone is interested.

I finally did some experimenting and compressed it with Divix. It came
out a little grainy, but at 740X486 compressed to 30MB, I think its postable.
I believe the 16bit audio is also consuming a good chunk of the space.

My problem is where to post this vid? I don't have a website so I don't
know of any place that can hold a sizeable video file I can link to.

If you have any ideas, let me know.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: 3D furry film compression. Reply with quote

Bug Jonsin wrote:
I believe the 16bit audio is also consuming a good chunk of the space.


Yes, it is. I took a look at the video you posted in the other thread, and the uncompressed audio stream alone is about 20MB. If you use MP3 audio compression, you can easily reduce the entire AVI to 18-19MB with very little loss of perceived sound quality.
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