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Superlagg Registered User
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: |
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But what if the entity in question dosent die from age, like Ent's in my story? One that has no known beginning and an unforseeable end? One that inhabits the minds of anything sentient and acts through it? How would a creature like that be? |
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Tygon Site Owner
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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We're talking about societies here, not single beings.
For single beings the entire idea does not apply since no-one knows how a mind will work if it has been active for hundreds or thousands of years. _________________ Tygon Panthera - name and species
www.planetfurry.com/~tygon/ |
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Superlagg Registered User
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Tygon wrote: | We're talking about societies here, not single beings.
For single beings the entire idea does not apply since no-one knows how a mind will work if it has been active for hundreds or thousands of years. |
Ents could qualify as a society, being that there are countless ammounts of them throughout the universe in my story. |
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Tygon Site Owner
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Still the idea does not apply. You are talking about a whole different kind of beings. One could not tell how they or their society evolve. Only the one who is writing them can. _________________ Tygon Panthera - name and species
www.planetfurry.com/~tygon/ |
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Superlagg Registered User
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Tygon wrote: | Still the idea does not apply. You are talking about a whole different kind of beings. One could not tell how they or their society evolve. Only the one who is writing them can. |
I see. Ents never could evolve, due to the lack of the ability to reproduce, but they were able to be changed by outside influences... kinda. |
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Shoobie Registered User
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Tygon wrote: | no-one knows how a mind will work if it has been active for hundreds or thousands of years. |
I think it would get full of gunk...
You'd also probably be insanely bored with sex by then... |
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Vee Are Are Schee Mini-Boss
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Shoobie wrote: | Tygon wrote: | no-one knows how a mind will work if it has been active for hundreds or thousands of years. |
I think it would get full of gunk...
You'd also probably be insanely bored with sex by then... |
Or, you'd figure out ways to have sex SO INTENSE that it would KILL a normal person if they did it with you! |
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kodayu Registered User
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Shoobie wrote: | You'd also probably be insanely bored with sex by then... |
Anyone ever read the Star Diaries by Stanislaw Lem? The story about the civilisation who genengineered itself to be able to have sex in ways previously impossible, including the creation of new genders?
_________________ "We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane." |
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Shoobie Registered User
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Vee Are Are Schee wrote: | Shoobie wrote: | Tygon wrote: | no-one knows how a mind will work if it has been active for hundreds or thousands of years. |
I think it would get full of gunk...
You'd also probably be insanely bored with sex by then... |
Or, you'd figure out ways to have sex SO INTENSE that it would KILL a normal person if they did it with you! |
What are you talking about? I'm already so intense in the bed it would kill a mortal furry...
heeheehee ^..^
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Vee Are Are Schee Mini-Boss
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, same here!
... but that might be because zombies find certain body parts attractive that you can't actually see without taking them out of the body first...
... this is going very far off topic. |
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Tygon Site Owner
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Vee Are Are Schee wrote: | Oh, same here!
... but that might be because zombies find certain body parts attractive that you can't actually see without taking them out of the body first...
... this is going very far off topic. |
I think I speak for most of us when I say "Eek!" _________________ Tygon Panthera - name and species
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Vee Are Are Schee Mini-Boss
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Don't knock it 'till you try it.
Anyway, err, on topic? Uh... perhaps time is cyclic and no society lasts long enough? Darn people, we go from talking about time and societies to intercourse with vital organs... although I'm largely to blame for that... oops. |
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Shoobie Registered User
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still stuck on the whole zombies and "opinions about time" thing. Zombies experience time...? |
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Vee Are Are Schee Mini-Boss
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Most zombies don't know how to perserve their bodies, and ergo, rot. They feel the effects of time in the same way the living do, only sped up. Living beings and zombies both head towards a point at which they shall no longer function; for most zombies, this time is much faster. On the other paw, most zombies aren't intelligent enough to comprehend the fact that they are rotting, nor are their brains capable of creating any real memory to record things in a time-line view... but that's not universal, as it depends on the type of zombie and so forth...
In a zombie society, time would be largely meaningless though, yes, as even docile, demi-sentient perserved zombies would be largely oblivious, or at the least, apathetic, to it. The only time they'd have to worry would be when they started to fall apart again, and that's taking for granted the fact that they have the intelligence to recognize this, take action against it, and possess the philosophy that falling apart into nothing is a bad thing.
So, yes, zombies experience time, we just largely ignore it. |
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Shoobie Registered User
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Zombies...preserving themselves...so they can have normal lives...
I think I'm going to be sick... |
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