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ChrisFoxx
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 3:46 pm Post subject:

Maxx wrote:

I think i have a way to explain that... perhaps the time travel agency has a Bistromatic Ver. 2.5 based drive... a drive more complex than the infinite improbability one...
the main advantage is that this advanced version of the bistromatic engine can cross vast interstellar/dimensional distances without all that dangerous mucking about improbability factors...

...meanwhile, a butterly beats the crud out of an ant in Thailand...

Wink

He's from Barcelona Wink

Chris

Fishburne
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 4:41 pm Post subject:

ChrisFoxx wrote:

Maxx wrote:

He's from Barcelona Wink

Chris

But did the gratuity come into play? And who had the biscotti and who dipped the zucchini into the red sauce? These things must be known!!!!

Rolling Eyes

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Elfen_Furry
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:33 pm Post subject:

Fishburne wrote:

Blink Blink

Ok, I went back and worked your equation, but a variable has not been identified.

i

What does i constitute.

Incomplete equations make me hurt inside. Real Bad.

i is an imaginary number which stands for SqaureRoot of -1;
just like those other imagary numbers, like:
eleventeen and thirty-twelve...

http://www.ipa.net/~kdeebee/imagnum.jpg
(cant argue with a GREAT mathmatician there!)

In the end, i boiled it down to:
v^2=c^2=i2f...

considering associative properties:
y=c/co, r=v/co (although it was already given that r=v/co=vo*y/co ), and c=co*y, which all gave v=co*r

The question is:
i2f = 2if ; does 2i = -1?
i^2 does = -1.... hmmm....

if 2i=-1 then the final answer boils down to:
c=v=-f^1/2

If not, then so been it. Something's lost on the translation matrix and its the end of the world as we know it!

I sat down after school doing this with the kids and the staff gave me strange looks because it was too high of a level of math for them, let alone quantum physics! As for the kids- they ate is up, just using basic associative and distrubuted properties, they figured it out down to the same i-problem fishburne had.

I had a different one back in hish school, but it invovled ftl mechanics with time dilation and gravimetirc folds of a nearby star. It starts:

T = T^0....

But I need to find that notebook that forumla was in Confused

Tygon
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:39 pm Post subject:

I'm a sci-fi junkie and I love a well, worked out background but I get the feeling you people are putting a tad too much thinking in this. However, don't let that stop you. I just wanted to express my feelings _________________ Tygon Panthera - name and species www.planetfurry.com/~tygon/

Fishburne
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:45 pm Post subject:

well shoot pardner, we alls kin stop playin smart feller. Heck, I LOVE a challenge, and love math problems But the i had me going for a bit. now, if I multiply eleventythree times the gravitational coefficient of the universe... LOL _________________ "Do not Taunt Happy Fun God" -Cthulhu

RealDesertFox
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 6:47 pm Post subject:

You all speak funny talk. Me no understand.

Tygon
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 7:01 pm Post subject:

Fishburne wrote:

well shoot pardner, we alls kin stop playin smart feller.

Heck, I LOVE a challenge, and love math problems

But the i had me going for a bit.

now, if I multiply eleventythree times the gravitational coefficient of the universe...

LOL

Well, this went faaaaaaar over my head loooooong ago.

I can come up with an interesting explanation as to how I get from here to Alpha Centauri without loss of time but when it goes to mathematical foundation of that... PLEASE! I'm only 21 (well, 22 in a few days) and I've never been to a college.
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Fishburne
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 7:06 pm Post subject:

Tygon wrote:

Fishburne wrote:

pssst! neither had Einstein!!! Shocked

Get on the ball!!!! Wink

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Elfen_Furry
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 10:20 pm Post subject:

Fishburne wrote:

pssst! neither had Einstein!!! Shocked

Get on the ball!!!! Wink

Not bad for a guy who dropped out of high school...
Too bad he couldn't carry a "1" to the infinate place. He might have figured the universal constant problem if he had!

BTW- Happy B-day Tygon! Twisted Evil

As for me.... mine is a story involving gov't programming, budget cuts and deciet! Too bad the lot of us underwent mental breakdown after the end of the NYC-BOE Child Prodigy Program.

Galadrion
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 10:28 pm Post subject:

Elfen_Furry wrote:

The question is:
i2f = 2if ; does 2i = -1?
i^2 does = -1.... hmmm....

No: 2i is irreducible. i^2 = -1, but 2i is simply 2 times the square root of -1.

Now, here's something that can throw even college math professors: i^4 = ? For some reason, this is a blind spot in about 80% of those few who understand irrational mathematics...

And, for more fun, a "logical" proof that not only does one not equal one, but the precise difference can be quantified! Like so:

1/3 = 0.333... repeating
3*(1/3) = 3*(0.333... repeating)
3/3 = 0.999... repeating
1 = 0.999... repeating

Now, subtract one side from the other to get the difference: 10^(-infinity).

*Grin* I used to have a lot of fun in high school playing around with things like this... it used to drive the more rational teachers nuts, trying to refute the reasoning. The ones with more liberal arts training, naturally, had a defense - they couldn't understand what I was saying enough to be disturbed by it. Hardly surprising - if you don't have the math to balance a checkbook, calculus involving irrationalities and infinities will be naught but so much gibberish...

Tygon
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 11:18 am Post subject:

Fishburne wrote:

pssst! neither had Einstein!!! Shocked

Get on the ball!!!! Wink

Yes, and he wasn't good at math either so perhaps there is hope for me...

Elfen_Furry wrote:

BTW- Happy B-day Tygon! Twisted Evil

Um, not yet. Please wait for the 25th. Over here getting birthday wishes before your birthday means bad luck BIG time.
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Elfen_Furry
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 5:17 pm Post subject:

Tygon wrote:

Fishburne wrote:

pssst! neither had Einstein!!! Shocked

Get on the ball!!!! Wink

Yes, and he wasn't good at math either so perhaps there is hope for me...

Elfen_Furry wrote:

BTW- Happy B-day Tygon! Twisted Evil

Um, not yet. Please wait for the 25th. Over here getting birthday wishes before your birthday means bad luck BIG time.

Probably for the same reason why one does not send a dead person's wardrobe to a charity, so somebody dont end up wearing a dead person's clothes....?

Ok, I'll take it back, and any negativity that might fall on your behalf! I'll wait until the 25th Mr. Green

(See, Skunkfox! You're not the only harbinger of death and destruction in this place!)

-Elfen_Furry
Problems with the firewall is really mucking up my log-ins!

Tygon
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:07 am Post subject:

Elfen_Furry wrote:

(See, Skunkfox! You're not the only harbinger of death and destruction in this place!)

-Elfen_Furry
Problems with the firewall is really mucking up my log-ins!

I don't want to appear ungrateful or anything. Of course I'm grateful for any birthday wishes I get. It's just that even if I am not superstitious, I feel that it isn't right to get wishes for something that hasn't happened yet.

But enough about me. You can go back to your high-tech discussions.
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Elfen_Furry
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:11 pm Post subject:

ChrisFoxx wrote:

Maxx wrote:

He's from Barcelona Wink

Chris

It must be an Iron Butterfy. Mr. Green

Cateagle
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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:39 pm Post subject:

Elfen_Furry wrote:

ChrisFoxx wrote:

Maxx wrote:

He's from Barcelona Wink

Chris

It must be an Iron Butterfy. Mr. Green

Cue's his old LP's from his college days.

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