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Solis · Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 11:48 pm Post subject: Hybrids

I was wondering...

What do you people think about hybrids in a furry world?

I'm debating on how closely to follow this aspect of my character. That... and I'm just a curious little bugger.

My opinion is, I think, rather obvious. Thus, I want yours.

Tygon · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 12:31 am Post subject:

I really like hybrids (take a look at me if you want a proof Wink

).

However, in some stories they just don't fit.

For example, in Furry Pirates they said that interspecies marriage was socially NOT acceptible in earlier times. If you consider the purists I think that is quite correct. People only opose to something that strongly if its new. If there had been hybids around for centuries there would not be so much purists.

So, if only for history accuaracy I think hybrids won't fit in stories taking place a few centuries ago.

That's why I votes for the second option, even if I really love hybrids.

Hortmage · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 12:45 am Post subject:

Up until I started reading Concolor's "Gone Wylde", I hand't given hybrids much of a thought. Someone like ZigZag could be given an interesting fur pattern because of some out-of-species breeding in their family tree, but that was it.

But in Gone Wylde, as well as Shirh Kahn's "From the Depths to the Heights," we see a whole new realm of interpersonal behavior due to a fur's parentage.

One of the ongoing debates in furry fiction is that most furs are treated just like hairy people. Rarely does a character's animal nature show in these stories. If you replaced the word "paw" with "hand", many of these stories would be unidentifiable from mainstream fiction.

And even with that, those stories fail. Because humans are a bigoted lot. We hate anyone who is different -- based on their skin color, their religion, their country of origin, etc. Yet, you don't even see that in most furry stories (and no, the lack of respect a predator species feels toward a prey species isn't the same thing).

Yet Concolor and Shirh Kahn have brought back this human failing, and in a way that makes perfect sense with furries -- the hatred of hybrids. The disdain a pure-bred feels toward mutts and those that mate outside their species.

Every story in the "Sabrina-verse"... (and if you dislike the term, sorry -- but it's the easiest way to encompass all of the spinoffs from the original works of Eric Schwartz and Max BlackRabbit)... has practically every "couple" being of mixed species. Except for Sabrina's parents, I can't think of any character that has married and raised young completely within their species and breed (and a golden retriever and a yellow labrador, while both dogs, still are producing "mutts").

So...with all of these mixed species relationships, either the couples are going to be unable to have kids, or they will have hybrids. So hybrids, whether you like it or not, have GOT to be acknowledged in furry stories.

Or...the stories have to be changed, to show a higher degree of within-species dating and mating. Because, just from what I see offered, it appears that (in this generation, anyway), no one is even LOOKING within their own species!! Makes you wonder how come there are so many perfect skunks/foxes/squirrels as the main characters...

Just my 2 cents, and my anti-depressant hasn't kicked in yet...

Tygon · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 12:52 am Post subject:

To reply to Hortmage, I think there are a majority of mixed species couples because they are more interesting. After all, there has to a good reason why their story is told and a mixed species couple is a good one. Has a kinda 'forbidden love' touch.

And BTW, everybody around here calls it the Sabrinaverse Smile

SkunkFox · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 1:20 am Post subject:

Hey don't forget about my Hortamage! Nearly all of my main characters are hybrids, and in one case a mixed breed. So I know a whole lot about the little buggars! Very Happy

CrayzedWolf · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:10 am Post subject:

I LOVE HYBRIDS.

I am especially fond of Tygons hybrid Lion with strips Oooooooh
and ZigZag (Damn sexy)

Tygon · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:23 am Post subject:

Bearion · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 2:26 am Post subject:

Sslaxx · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:57 am Post subject: Rave! Rant! Rant! Rave! DROOL!

Toric · Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:19 am Post subject:

I like swords.

I'm a hybrid too. ^.^

Sponge · Registered User Joined: 13 Apr 2003 Posts: 10

In my fic, they're treated by the GBT (generally Badgers, which are evil, evil I tell you!) as a sort of underclass; they're discriminated against, unable to hold work in the higher echelons of society due to their lineage. They're rare, but reasonably prominent- Ganjhar (a fox-unknown hybrid) has deep-rooted psychological trauma which he just vents every so often.
It happens a lot- in an RPG I'm in, I have an iron Warriors Chaos marine of Imperial Fists geneseed (if you don't know your 40K, I advise you to stop HERE, as I am, indeed, the single oddest sentient in all six known universes), essentially a halfbreed. He gets hell. Read Graham McNeill's 'Storm of Iron' for an insight into how these halfbreeds are treated- you could bung Honsou in anywhere in a Furry story.

If you'll excuse me. I have to reassert my sanity.

Tygon

Sslaxx

Ryan Fox · Guest

But then... what if...
Then that makes me... OH MY GAWD NO! Shocked

Tygon