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Cookie Registered User
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 1690 Location: Yankee Appalachia
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:58 am Post subject: Furry denial runs rampant in artists |
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Have you ever noticed that some of the biggest names in furry art deny being furry?
This bothers me, not because of some fanatical furry pride, no, it bothers me because it's ridiculous. Follow me for a sec-
If you draw furry art, particularly adult furry art, and enjoy it, you are a furry.
Why do these artists deny the furry 'label'? Because they are afraid that being a furry immediately qualifies them for every dark chasm fetish or habit in the book. It's not worth the denial though, just because you are a furry does not mean you have to involve yourself in these activities.
If you are afraid to have the general public look down upon you as a result of being a furry, just don't advertise it! Be a furry with furries, and leave it at that.
Really now, if you draw it and like it, you ARE a furry. No ifs, ands or buts. If you draw it and hate it, then what is wrong with you? Stop doing it!
What is your opinion? _________________ AKA Skoon
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Ryan Fox Registered User
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 120 Location: Cape Town South Africa
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm y'know.. I believe someone some years ago posted something similar to this...
Two words: Nag avoidance
Personally I do not deny being furry, I just keep a low profile, in order to avoid the wrong kind of attention.
Ryan
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Syrius Registered User
Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 1463 Location: The S.S. ScurvyDog, Arizona! YARR!
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Same here. It's shades of gray, not just black and white. _________________ Hey, Sony... IT'S PAYBACK TIME!
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tobi3B Registered User
Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 645 Location: Germany Siegen
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Funny that you mentioned it.
Had yesterday a little discussion with an artist.
She says she is no furry I say she is a furry fan because she likes to draw furry stuff. To that she agreed.
Iīm a furry and I donīt deny it but I donīt rub it under the noses of others _________________ Whether a black cat brings misfortune or not, depends on whether one is a fur or a mouse.
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Wulfie_Vulphyre Registered User
Joined: 27 Apr 2009 Posts: 261 Location: Nashville TN
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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You could term furry artists as "fur friendly" or something to the likes. They may not be a furry so to speak, they might just Really like drawing furry art. I do not deny being furry, I have in fact made it a point to include it in my life everyday. It's the same as religion to me. I gladly will look anyone in the eye and tell them Yes I am a furry, And Yes I am a Christian and I know it's a contradiction ( in the eyes of some ) so mind your own bees wax! People can judge, and I've even been threatened and called names because of it. That could be why some artists tend to try to dodge the furry label. It can be kind of dangerous in certain less tolerant parts of the world. _________________ There is no signature here. |
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Styx Site Owner
Joined: 25 Dec 2002 Posts: 3176 Location: West Covina, California
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Would that make all the 2D animators of the Disney cartoons with furry characters furries too? _________________ "Political Correctness is tyranny with manners." Charlton Heston
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Cookie Registered User
Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 1690 Location: Yankee Appalachia
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Styx wrote: | Would that make all the 2D animators of the Disney cartoons with furry characters furries too? |
Well I suppose not. That's a job they took for love of animating.
Edit: What is being furry at it's core? A love for animal characters with human traits right? Yes.
It does not have to be sexual, though most furs enjoy that aspect, it's not a requirement to be a furry.
If you love these animal characters, you are, at the basic definition, a furry.
It is a shame that fur-dom has been defined with an over-sexual nature, but we be humans, we do that to everything we love. _________________ AKA Skoon
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Hawke Registered User
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Posts: 175 Location: Hickory Hills, IL (Near Chicago)
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Why not just leave it as art? There doesn't need to be labels. It's just another style of art. _________________ "It's kind of like if you combined The Wizard of Oz and Reign of Fire...and Jonathan Livingston Seagull."
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Cookie Registered User
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Hawke wrote: | Why not just leave it as art? There doesn't need to be labels. It's just another style of art. |
Could you make a rap album and then claim not to be a rapper? _________________ AKA Skoon
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PrincessB Registered User
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Well one can dabble in something but not be fully that thing. I attended a Baptist church with an ex once, that does not make me a Baptist.
Now if one draws mostly clearly furry artwork but denies furry like it's an STD to be ashamed of then that is a bit bothersome. But if they mostly have one style and occasionally draw something kind of furry, then I could understand denying being furry. _________________ http://www.bukisa.com/people/AmberBarnes check it out!
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Cookie Registered User
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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PrincessB wrote: | Now if one draws mostly clearly furry artwork but denies furry like it's an STD to be ashamed of then that is a bit bothersome. But if they mostly have one style and occasionally draw something kind of furry, then I could understand denying being furry. |
True this. However, the artists who deny the 'status' have an enormous amount of the subject under their belt.
Jeremy Bernal for example. He even owns and operates an adult furry site, yet claims he is not a furry. The art and the site make him a big part of the fandom. Being a part of it does make him... well, a part of it. A furry. _________________ AKA Skoon
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Syrius Registered User
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they just want to avoid getting labeled with the negative stigma associated with the fandom? Can't really blame them for that, can we?
On the other hand, that guy running a furry adult site wouldn't qualify for such reasoning... _________________ Hey, Sony... IT'S PAYBACK TIME!
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Cookie Registered User
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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a great point of interest to this subject-
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3551731
For those who don't know, I am Skoon at FA. I did respond to this article.
(Yes, it's work safe) _________________ AKA Skoon
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Aslaug Site Owner
Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 1861 Location: Slagelse, Denmark
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:07 am Post subject: |
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I have to say, I rather dislike labels like "furry" being attached to people without their consent.
It is not about whether you draw furries, write about them, make fursuits or something else. It is about whether you identify yourself as a furry.
Personally, I have never identified myself as a furry. I am not an anthropomorphic animal. I'm a human being, shock-and-horror as that may be to some, but there goes. I do consider myself a fan of the genre for several reasons, but there are many aspects of furry fandom I just don't get and that I don't want to be involved in. One of them is fursuiting. If it fits others, fine ... dandy ... go right ahead, it's a free world. But I don't personally want to get closer to my inner animal in that way. There's no part of yiff I particularly like, either. And there are other things I don't really find all that interesting or attractive, as well.
However, that doesn't mean I can't like furry art or furry stories. I just don't think it's necessary to attach that label forcibly to everyone who has anything to do with the community. Let people define themselves, please. |
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Cookie Registered User
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:25 am Post subject: |
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You completely miss the point, Aslaug. The point is that being furry does not mean those things!
The true definition of furry is an interest in animals with human traits. Not yiff, not fur suits, not 'getting in touch with your inner animal', just a general interest in the furry characters. Those other things are side notes.
I'm not trying to force labels on anybody, I'm trying to play down the aspects that people have mistakenly identified as core furry. Make people realize that being a furry is not what they seem to think it is. _________________ AKA Skoon
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