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Enola Straight · Registered User Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 329

It is postulated that for every particle, there is an antiparticle.

It is postulated that a particle moving packward through, time traces out the same path as an antiparticle moving forward through time.

It is postulated that a particle/antiparticle pair spontaneously erupt into existence, and immediately cancels each other before either particle can interact with the rest of the universe.

Is it physically/mathematically possible to say that such a particle pair is actually a single particle trapped in a temporal loop?

anthony · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject:

AAAAARGH!

Brain sploey!

Have you tried asking Stephen Hawking?

WhiteStorm · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:58 pm Post subject:

It's possible to say, yes. Although I'll forget the words in a few minutes.

Rabbit · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject:

I am a layman-- please forgive my butchering of a complex subject.

Back in the 80's, one of the bothersome questions about quantum mechanics was why time preferentially moved forward instead of backwards. As I understood it, during the period in question the current best models could find no preference for forward movement over reverse movement; the processes worked and the numbers balanced equally well in either direction. Eventually, however, this problem was somehow solved, and a natural mechanism found which selected for forward movement. If frail memory serves, this was around 1995.

Hope this helped. Again, I am an auto worker, not a quantum physicist.

GriffinX · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject:

duu me hit things with hammer now.

..um....

strangest thing is i really can't think of any thing good to add.

except have you looked in to string theory.

Kellan Meig'h · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject:

My old, weak, overused brain just shorted out.

(the brain stem typed this)

The former Kellan's body, now under the brain stem's control

Nicolai Borovskaya · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject:

I would say yes, theoretically. The difficulty, however, would be proving it.

Stephen Hawking, I'm not. Just a poor, hardworking geek with a few unused brain cells.

Nicolai

Sigurd Volsung · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject:

If the spontaneously created and then erupting particles and anti-particles do just that then what is the point of looking for them since their near zilch of an existence then they shouldn't have time to affect the universe. There is of course a problem with the idea that theory. If every particle has an anti-particle that should cause it to erupt then we shouldn't exist. I'm not up on my theoretical physics so I won't try to explain things.

Elfen_Furry · Moderator Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2601 Location: NYC NY

FINALLY- A QUESTION I CAN RELATE TOO!!!!

Answer: Yes/No

Yes, because it is exactly as how you just said.

No, because there are an infinate number of temporal chords creating an infinate number of particles and an infinate number of anti-particles that it is impossible to get the exact two corresponding ones.

In short, they are moving sideways though time across the temporal chords and parallel universes and not up/down through our time line with us.

That is in the simplest terms I can put it in.

Enola Straight · Registered User Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 329

These virtual particle pairs are proposed to be the method that Black Holes "evaporate".

If one particle falls into the Event Horizon (the point of no return) the other particle is free to escape.

By some form of physics/mathematics the "bookkeeping" of mass/energy of the system is thus: the free particle that escapes subtracts one particle's worth of mass/energy from the Black Hole.

There's a difference between virtual and real...real particles can interact with the rest of the universe.