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[Tygon]

[Ryan Fox]

Well I like the XBOX 360... even though its Microsoft.. it is quite
powerful... and from the little I've seen... the games are going to be
nothing next to amazing.. It is DirectX based... dunno the exact hardware
specs.. but it beats the crap out of the PS3 in terms of raw CPU, GPU
power. Plenty of potential

[Xaqtly]

Kameo is looking particularly awesome on the Xbox 360. But you know, power does not a system make. The current Xbox is more powerful than the PS2, yet the PS2 outsells it by an OMGWTF margin. It's all about the games. The Xbox never really came through on that side like the PS2 did, and the Xbox didn't have the 1st and 2nd party clout and universally loved franchises like Nintendo does. It remains to be seen if that will change with the next generation.

Also of note, it's good to see that Rare is doing the same thing to Microsoft that they did to Nintendo - delaying a game, delaying it again and again, then eventually just making it for the next gen console.

[JediFur]

*pardon the extreme off-topicness, but I couldn't help but say something...*

He SPEAKS!

My goodness, Xaq is back!

This is Wootness to the extreme.

Good to hear from ya, buddy!

-JediFur

[Tygon]

[Xaqtly]

Kameo. Actually Kameo is now being re-made for the third time on the third console - It was originally started for the Gamecube when Rare was still working with Nintendo, there were even screenshots released and everything. In fact it was supposed to be a Gamecube launch title if you can believe that. They began the first work on Kameo in 1999, right after they finished Donkey Kong 64 for the N64. But then MS bought them in Sept. 2002 so the GC version was canned and they started re-doing it for the Xbox.

That was 2 years and 11 months ago, they were never able to finish it for the Xbox (despite releasing only one game in this entire nearly 3 year period) so they moved it over to the Xbox 360, where it looks like it's finally going to be released. Eventually.

Rare has always been very slow about releasing games, and the problem is their games aren't as good as they used to be. The best games they ever made were all for the N64, with the possible exception of Donkey Kong Country for the SNES. Once they got hugely popular and famous for games like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, Jet Force Gemini, Conker's Bad Fur Day (now finally available on the Xbox), Blast Corps, etc, they became lazy or something and couldn't bring themselves to put out more than one game every couple years. They only did one game for the Gamecube (Starfox Adventures).

Even Perfect Dark has had a sequel in the works since the N64 days (Perfect Dark Zero), and now it's slated to come out on the Xbox 360 too, after being scheduled for the Gamecube first, then the Xbox and now the 360.

And there's no guarantee the games will be as good as they used to be in the halcyon days of the N64, especially because almost all the Rare developers, programmers and artists that worked on the N64 games have gone on to greener pastures since then. I almost wonder if Microsoft didn't get burned on their Rare purchase. Kameo does look amazing on the 360 though, and I really want to try it. I also desperately want to play Perfect Dark Zero if it ever comes out on the 360, so here's hoping Rare haven't lost all their magic.

Edit: I found this particularly telling of Microsoft's situation with Rare at the moment, this is from wikipedia.

[admford]

Well i'd vote in the poll, but there is no "all of the above"

Currently I've got an XBox, PSTwo (slim), GameCube, Nintendo DS, and a Japanese PSP. so that pretty much counts as all the current major systems on sale here.

I'm gonna exchange my XBox for a XBox360 at EBGames in a few, should get a bit of a discount on it.

[anthony]